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Comment by Mike Skinner on May 15, 2012 at 7:19am

Thanks all yall for the information. I have heard lots of good things about both futur sonics and sensa  phonics but Im leaning towards sensa phonics as I hear continually that their the most comfortable and have an excellent seal as the ear piece is made from one materiel.

Im gonna look into prices from FS and SS soon.

Thanks and keep it coming Jack and Bruce.

Skinner

Comment by Joe Lizano on May 15, 2012 at 2:46am

I've heard that sensaphonics are excellent and I hope some day to have a set. They really care about hearing conservation over there. Oh and the port thing that   Jack mentioned is vey true. FS is now doing fixed size ports. One size one sound. Good Luck.

Comment by Bruce Danz on May 14, 2012 at 9:55pm

I agree with your points Jack. Also every engineer has his deals/loyaltiy and preferences as to companies. For most bands i have to deal with i need high voulume so i like the large quanity of drivers. Good luck to Mike with whatever he choses to fit his needs

Comment by Jack Kontney on May 14, 2012 at 9:46pm

I don't want to turn this into a brand argument, but a couple things need to be clarified:

-Dissing balanced armatures as "hearing aid technology" is strictly marketing talk. Balanced armatures are full-range devices used by the vast majority of high-end IEMs designers for their accuracy and reliability. They do not "get hissy on the high end" and provide full, rich bass when properly fitted. 

-To function properly, dynamic IEMs require a port to achieve balanced response. That port means a loss of isolation. Which means EITHER dynamics are accurate, or they are isolating. You can't have it both ways.

-I agree that excessive crossovers are a bad idea. Similarly, large quantities of drivers are completely unnecessary, except that they can be used to attain excessive volume levels and mask the loss of bass that happens with a poor seal.

-If you start with truly reference-flat response, there is no need to own more than one pair of IEMs.

-Every major IEM brand has plenty of high-end performers using them.

-Think of your hearing. Sensaphonics is dedicated to helping musicians and engineers preserve their ears for longer careers and better quality of life.

Best of luck in your search, Mike.

Comment by Joe Lizano on May 14, 2012 at 8:06pm

The question is do you want Armature's or Dynamic drivers?  Armature's are basically hearing aid technology were Dynamic drivers are actual speakers. I use and have been using Future Sonics Dynamic Ear Monitors for the last 10 years and I will not use anything else. Why because, they give me true reference natural sound. Armatures tend to get a bit hissy on the high end and you need a few low freq. armatures to give you the bass. Hence the 2 ,3 4 qnd 5 way pieces. Another downside to multi way drivers is the crossover. The crossover creates dips in the response and the multi way systems create time alignment imperfections. SIngers like the dynamics because they are very natural sounding.  

A few singers and bands on Future Sonics ( Bono, Sting, Chili Peppers, Kings of Leon, Adele). If you are an engineer unfortunately you must own both technologies but, The mixes I create on my Future Sonics hold true anywhere I play them and my musicians and artist are comfortable and happy al the time the top of the line model mg6pro offer 26db isolation and have a sensitivity of 114db @ 32 ohms. For about $175.00 you can try some Future Sonics Atrio generics to get an idea of their sound signature. Good Luck

Comment by Bruce Danz on May 14, 2012 at 8:03pm

JH audio are by far the best sounding in ears out there and their customer service cant be beat. and Mike the JH 16 sound amazing and are a 3 way set up with 2 high 2 mid and 2 dual low end drivers in them. simply audio extasy

Comment by Jack Kontney on May 14, 2012 at 7:48pm

HI MIke,

Key IEM factors for the the engineer are reference flat response and high isolation. You need to start with accuracy to have a fighting chance to keep your artists happy, and isolation lowers the noise floor to let you monitor at safer levels. I strongly prefer soft earpiece material for comfort in long sessions, and field-replaceable cables (since it's always the cable that goes).

I strongly recommend Sensaphonics, specifically the 2MAX. (Full disclosure -- they are a client of mine. But still the best IEMs going.)

Comment by Mike Skinner on May 14, 2012 at 6:36pm

Yall,

I decided to get a set of custom molded IEM. I was thinking of getting a dual, maybe triple drive set.  A friend told me they have had more success with single driver sets and that the most picky ears in the industry feel the same. Please give me yalls thoughts as I have an all IEM gig coming up and want to get them as soon as possible. Thanks

Skinner

Comment by Graham Pearson on September 19, 2011 at 8:34pm

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Comment by Ben Johnson on March 1, 2011 at 4:55pm

QSC K10 if it's just vox, gtr, keys... I've not yet needed to pair them

QSC K12 if you need kick in your front wedges

 

bfb ratio of about 1/9 (bang for buck = dBspl / $unitprice)

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